118: Greg Bovino Wants to Be Your President feat. Christopher Mathias

Do you remember the small guy in a big, fashy-looking coat who oversaw ICE's invasion of Minneapolis — the operation that led to the deaths of Renee Good and Alex Pretti? His name is Gregory Bovino, and he wants to be your president.

Acclaimed To Catch a Fascist author Christopher Mathias rejoins PTI this week. After a brief detour into the sentencing of antifascists in Texas, he joins Jared and Mike to paint a picture of Bovino: beyond standing just 5'4", the man is afflicted with a metastasized strain of MAGA, one fixated on "remigration" — that is, deporting upwards of a hundred million people. This year, he stepped down from commanding ICE and moved into new territory: cozying up to hardened white nationalists and meeting with extremists abroad.

So dust off your VHS copy of "The Border" and join us as we get to the bottom of the most shocking truth of all: Bovino may look like he's from Long Island, but he's not!

Links for Chris:

• Talking Points Memo: "Greg Bovino’s Retirement Plan? Go Full Fascist"

• MSNOW: "After teasing a presidential bid, Greg Bovino joined a white nationalist’s podcast"

• Blueksy: @letsgomathias.bsky.social / X: @letsgomathias

• Book: "To Catch a Fascist: The Fight to Expose the Radical Right"