17 juni 2026
31 min
In this bonus episode, Katy Cowan and Rob Draper swap the big career questions for something a lot more daft – a quickfire ramble through nostalgia, confessions and very questionable claims to greatness.
Rob shares his most controversial creative opinion (talking about it isn't doing it), the smallest thing that improves his work day, and the theme tune his creative style would have – an old radio dial flicking between fast and slow, classic and modern, all in the name of contrast. He reveals the skills he'd steal overnight, from projection mapping to portraiture, and the daily portrait challenge he's quietly set himself.
Along the way, the pair tumble down a glorious rabbit hole of childhood memories: Number 73 and Saturday morning telly, the first wave of electro and hip-hop, breakdancing in Worcester, and an eleven-year-old Rob's all-consuming dream of working for Nike. Katy, meanwhile, makes the case for stolen marzipan, declares herself the world's greatest hip-hop dancer (white wine permitting), and tries – repeatedly, desperately – to find a single other human being who gets the "fuzzy nose" feeling.
Warm, silly and gloriously off-piste, it's the perfect send-off for the season, and a reminder that the best creative conversations are the ones that refuse to stay serious.
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