Can Canada become a NATO leader as US support wanes?

 NATO members are gathering in Ankara, Turkey at a fraught time. The wars in Ukraine and Iran are ongoing and there are questions about how the alliance will reimagine itself as the US reduces support. Guest host Catherin Cullen speaks with Kerry Buck, Canada's ambassador to NATO from 2015 to 2019, Gönül Tol, the founding director of the Middle East Institute's Turkish Program, and Oana Lungescu, NATO's principal spokesperson from 2010 to 2023 about the future of NATO and Canada’s role in the alliance.