Gary Lineker | The Polictics Of The World Cup | 1

hould football and politics ever really be kept apart? What happens when the host nation is at war with one of the teams competing in its own tournament? And when FIFA hands its brand-new peace prize to Donald Trump, has the beautiful game lost the plot completely? Gary Lineker sits down with Legacy for the first of three conversations on the World Cup, drawing on forty years inside the game to explain why politics has never once stayed off the pitch.

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[0:00] Gary Lineker and forty years at the heart of the World Cup

[5:35] A history of politics gatecrashing every World Cup since Mussolini

[8:23] Inside the Kremlin: Gary on meeting - and refusing to meet - Putin

[14:23] Afua's own US visa troubles, and whether Gary's could be next

[15:46] The White House note nobody expected

[20:45] Would Gary refuse Trump the way he refused Putin?

[23:33] Trump in a football kit: Gary picks his position

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