5 maj 2026
101 min
Recorded live at Rafales (the anarchist learning camp hosted by ORA (Organisation Révolutionnaire Anarchiste) in Montreal).
We sat down with Zoya, one of the organizers, to dig into what Black autonomy actually looks like in practice: as theory, as daily organizing, and as a framework that refuses to wait for someone else's revolution to be finished first. From prefigurative politics to Afro-pessimism, from the Black Liberation Army to Cooperation Jackson, from Standing Rock to the Anarchist Group in Sudan, this conversation traces the lineage of Black radical struggle across generations and geographies. We also get into what it means to show up as Black folks in a diaspora full of contradictions; navigating immigrant families, queer identity, settler land, and the ever-present question of who solidarity is actually for.
Edited by Badger
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About Rafales: https://ora-rao.org/rafales-en/
Organisation Révolutionnaire Anarchiste: https://www.instagram.com/ora.rao.rev/
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EPISODE CHAPTERS
00:00 Intro
09:33 – What Does Black Autonomy Actually Mean to You?
19:29 – How Does Black Autonomy Push Beyond Liberal Inclusion Politics?
30:01 – What Are Prefigurative Politics and Why Do They Matter?
35:30 – What Does Prefigurative Organizing Look Like in Real Life?
40:53 – How Do Black Autonomy and Indigenous Sovereignty Connect?
47:48 – What Does Real Solidarity Look Like Beyond Symbolic Support?
52:06 – Which Political Thinkers Shape Your Vision of Black Liberation?
56:43 – What Does Afro-Pessimism Get Right—and Where Does It Fall Short?
01:00:54 – How Do Gender, Queerness, and Disability Shape Liberation Struggles?
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