22 juni 2026
48 min
Brian Grinstead is a distinguished engineer at Mozilla, where he’s worked on Firefox and the web platform since 2013 (he joined to help launch Firefox DevTools). Recently he and his team pointed an agentic bug-finding pipeline at Firefox—a codebase with tens of thousands of files and tens of millions of lines of code—and shipped a record month of security fixes. The viral chart everyone saw gave the credit to Anthropic’s new Mythos model. Brian’s take is that the harness and pipeline did just as much of the work, and he walks through exactly how it runs and how anyone can build a starter version.
What you’ll learn:
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In this episode, we cover:
(00:00) Introduction to Brian Grinstead
(02:43) The viral chart: Firefox Security Bug Fixes by Month
(05:32) How the custom harness works
(10:22) Goal loops and guardrails
(14:45) How they built it
(16:55) Real bugs, including a 15-year-old one
(23:00) Open-sourcing it
(26:26) Why humans still review every fix
(32:30) Live demo and prioritizing files
(40:18) Mobilizing the team and recap
(42:33) Lightning round
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Tools referenced:
• Claude Code: https://claude.ai/code
• Claude Agent SDK: https://code.claude.com/docs/en/agent-sdk/overview
• Codex: https://openai.com/index/openai-codex/
• OpenAI Agent SDK: https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/guides/agents
• VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/
• Docker: https://www.docker.com/
• Firefox: https://www.mozilla.org/firefox/
• Address Sanitizer: https://github.com/google/sanitizers
• RLBox: https://rlbox.dev/
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Other references:
• Mozilla Bug Bounty Program: https://www.mozilla.org/security/bug-bounty/
• Mozilla GitHub: https://github.com/mozilla
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Where to find Brian Grinstead:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bgrins/
GitHub: https://github.com/bgrins
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Where to find Claire Vo:
ChatPRD: https://www.chatprd.ai/
Website: https://clairevo.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/clairevo/
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