Kitchens Aren’t Just Stressful. They’re Poorly Designed Systems.

Most chefs think kitchens are hard because of the pressure.

Long hours. Fast pace. Physical work.

But what if the real problem isn’t the work, it’s the system behind it?

In this episode, I speak with Fabian Wilshues de Chavez, who moved from kitchens into building a startup focused on improving kitchen operations.

We talk about:

• Why kitchen work feels harder than it should
• The hidden role of bad systems in daily stress
• Why technology struggles to enter kitchens
• What’s actually broken behind the scenes
• And what the future of kitchens could look like

This is not just about leaving kitchens.

It’s about understanding them better.

👤 Connect with Fabian:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fabian-wilshues-de-chavez-8072aa146/

Remi : https://www.thisisremi.com/

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Chapters :

00:00 — Kitchens aren’t just stressful
01:07 — Fabian’s path from kitchens to startups
03:00 — Why most BCC students don’t become chefs
05:00 — The moment everything clicked
07:00 — What’s actually broken in kitchens
09:30 — What Remy is (simple explanation)
12:00 — Stress vs bad systems
14:30 — Why tech alone won’t fix kitchens
16:00 — The reality of building a startup
18:30 — Why no one is solving this problem
20:00 — Why kitchens resist change
23:00 — How to introduce new tools in kitchens
25:30 — The future of kitchens (2 directions)
29:00 — Sustainable careers in kitchens
32:00 — What to do when something feels off

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