16 juni 2026
47 min
Most chefs spend years trying to move up.
A better restaurant.
A bigger title.
A more prestigious kitchen.
But what if the biggest opportunities aren’t above you?
What if they’re somewhere you weren’t even looking?
Karl Wilder never planned to build a food tourism company.
He didn’t plan to spend years cooking across Italy after a translation mistake landed him in a kitchen.
He didn’t plan to raise $1.4 million to buy a country club.
And he certainly didn’t plan to help chefs around the world build businesses outside traditional restaurant careers.
Yet that’s exactly where he ended up.
In this episode of Fugitive Chefs, Karl shares a career that moved from kitchens to entrepreneurship, hospitality, food journalism, consulting, tourism, and back again, while never really leaving food behind.
We explore :
• How a simple misunderstanding in Italy changed the course of his career
• Why some of the most valuable chef skills have nothing to do with cooking
• What Karl learned from running restaurants and hospitality businesses
• How food tourism became his next chapter
• Why chef-led experiences are growing around the world
• The difference between expertise and credentials
• What Karl actually looks for when evaluating chefs
• Why communication is often a chef’s most underrated skill
• How chefs can create opportunities before leaving their day job
• The problem with following the “standard” chef career path
• Why many chefs struggle to imagine careers beyond kitchens
• What happens when you start looking sideways instead of upwards
One line from Karl stuck with me:
“When you’re on a treadmill, you only see what’s in front of you. You can’t see what’s to the side.”
This conversation is about looking to the side.
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